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Clearance Sheet C2024-005628*005

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Plans for a interior remodel of a 3 story medical office building.  The space is 57304sf (1-26960sf, 2-28019sf, 3-2325sf).  The first floor is completely built out, the second floor is mostly built out with a small shell area remaining.  Construction is type IIB(II000).  The building has a sprinkler and fire alarm system.  Submitted and reviewed as business.   


                                                        
Reviewed using FFPC 7th edition effective Dec. 31, 2020.
Reviewer: PJ Webb 904 209 1744 pwebb@sjcfl.us
 
To schedule fire inspections please call 827-6842 (automated system). Questions about inspections please call 209-1740x1.
Review by the AHJ shall not relieve the applicant of the responsibility for compliance with the Code.
 
For questions regarding comments you may reach me at either: 904 209 1744 or pwebb@sjcfl.us.

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RESUBMITTING:
A. Make necessary changes and resubmit everything in person to the permit center. You may not make handwritten alterations on signed and sealed plan pages.
B. Once at the Permit Center swap out altered pages or insert new pages in EACH plan set (Job and Office). One copy of the removed/old pages from the JOB Copy will need to be submitted and marked "OLD". Do not forget to remove pages for work not associated to this permit. All plan papers must be the same size.
C. Provide a response to comments along with any supporting documentation. Response to comments is REQUIRED not optional.
- The response to comments sheet will need to include a response to each numbered comment and tell us where in the plans the comments was addressed. EX - "Top Left of Page E1-1" or "Page E1 Note 8".
- Code responses shall reference Florida Fire Prevention Code, 8th Ed.

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1) This is a preliminary review, do not resubmit until a clearance sheet is provided. 

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 PJW-  Clearance Sheet Submitted. 

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2) There are several building egress concerns that were commented under the Building B Shell permit.  Ensure that any changes to the shell to address those comments are addressed on the buildout plans as well. 

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3) Sheet E2014B1 and E2024B1 indicates that the pedestrian bridge is labeled as a means of egress by exit signage.  This is not indicated on the LS plan.  Is it your intent to utilize NFPA 101:7.2.4.4 for egress between buildings?  At this time the separation requirements and door swing requirements are not met.  If this is your intent, demonstrate all requirements of this section and reflect on the LS plan.  If not, remove all exit signs directing you to and through the pedestrian bridge. 

Double check this requirement for the Building "C" Side as well.   

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "See revised Life Safety Plans.  This door is providing egress from the MOB via a 2 hour horizontal exit.  See AL201B &AL202B. 

 

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4) As currently designed, the first and second floor indicate a 1 hour smoke barrier separating the space N/S, utilizing a side hinged door and a WON door to achieve this.  Please clarify the design intention for this rating.  Has it been put in place towards addressing a vertical opening created by the monumental stair (This vertical opening was addressed under the shell review). If yes, specify which section of 8.6 you are attempting to meet. 

Is this to address travel distance limitations as indicated by the blue dotted line on 2/AC202B which terminates at the 1 hour barrier?  If this is the case I am not aware of an allowance that permits terminating a travel distance measurement at a 1 hour smoke barrier.  For a travel distance benefit, it would require a 2 hour separation and other requirements to be met, to be considered a horizontal exit per NFPA 101:38.2.2.5 and 7.2.4.1.1. 

Or perhaps it is to address a building code concern? 

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "The intent is to separate the communicating space from the remainder of the building so it can be in compliance with NFPA 101:8.6.6.  A horizontal exit compliant with NFPA 101:7.2.4 has been provided in the building connector.  See revised sheet A201B and A2014B.  See also AL201B and AL202B in the interior buildout package. 

Wednesday, January 8, 2025 PJW Reviewer Response- As noted under Building B Shell resubmittal, based on a conversation yesterday with the Architect Sara, the vertical opening (Stair B) is being designed per NFPA 101:38.3.1.1(1) and NFPA 101:8.6.9.1, not a communicating space per 8.6.6. The blue line is labeled as "path to smoke compartment" which is not required for business occupancies (101:38.3.7).

 

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5) Projects of this magnitude as it relates to door hardware and special locks etc., it is difficult to capture all of the information during the initial review.  To ease the review of the door hardware, in a conversation with Sara the architect, we decided to address the door hardware by revision later.   A insulation hold (109) will be placed on the permit for this revision submittal.

(Note that per NFPA 101:18.2.4.4, there are only 4 permitted locking arrangements.  Demonstrate on the door schedule which one each door meets, and demonstrate compliance with all requirements.)

Provide the following for the revision to assist in the review: 

- The security plans for the applicable building.
- The door schedule sheet including all floors
- The 087100 section of the manual only, I do not need the whole manual for doors.
- Past projects have added a short narrative in the 087100 manual with a brief description of how the door operates.  Example: Door provided with card reader ingress,  panic exit device with electric strike provided, always mechanical free egress.

See the following examples of questions that arose from a brief look at the hardware for building "C" just FYI. 

- Unlabeled shell door in lobby SL-BC-1-102 indicates a motion sensor.  What locking arrangement in NFPA 101:7.2.1.6 are you proposing? If you propose sensor release per NFPA 101:7.2.1.6.2.1, there are missing components such as manual release etc. 

- Door 1-880 indicates a motion sensor, but has panic hardware with electric strike.  I am not sure the intent of the sensor. Are you attempting to comply with NFPA 101:7.2.1.6.2.1?  (This is where the Hardware Group narrative would help) 

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, " See security Drawings (SEC Series). 

Wednesday, January 8, 2025 PJW Reviewers Response-  Is indicated in the original comment above, the door hardware due to its complexity will be reviewed independently by revision.  I took a cursory look at the security drawings provided and below are a few initial concerns: 

  • The following doors have card readers on both sides which is not permitted.  Healthcare allowances for locking doors for the safety of patients does not apply in business occupancies.  1-724.2, 1-722.2, 1-349, 1-345, 1-335, 1-333.  The same applies to the similar doors on the second floor. 
  • Door 1-001.4 and similar doors are going to have mechanical panic hardware with electric strikes with CR ingress.  What is the purpose of the REX/PIR and access control references?  If the panic hardware is mechanical and the electric strike releases to allow ingress with credentials, unsure of what the PIR is releasing and where the Access control references come into play.  If you are attempting to comply with Sensor Release of Electronic Locking Systems NFPA 101:7.2.1.6.2.1, (3) requires a push to exit button in addition to the other requirements.  The door locking detail did not clarify.  
  • Provide manufacturers specifications (cut sheets) for all components including but not limited to: panic hardware, electrified panic hardware, sensors, electric strikes, etc.   

 ***When you submit door hardware revision, ensure that you classify each special lock per NFPA 101:7.2.1.6 as Delayed Egress (7.2.1.6.1), Sensor Release (7.2.1.6.2), or  Door Hardware Release of Electronically Locked Doors (7.2.1.6.3)***

A hold has been placed on the permit for this revision. 

 

 

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6) Several doors indicate "by manuf" under hardware sets on the door schedule.  Provide this information now.   Sheet A900B

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "The "by manuf" indicator in the hardware assignment indicates the door is designed as an assembly and includes all required hardware by door assembly manufacturer (such as exam room manual ICU sliding door systems). Cut sheet included for ICU slider w/response to comment 6 above....."

Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW Reviewer Response- Specification sheets were provided for the barn doors, and for the ICU style sliding doors.  Confirmed with the Architect Sara that this building does not have the ICU sliding doors.  Only the barn doors, accordion door, and the WON doors. 

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7) Is the 3rd floor itself climate controlled as it relates to NFPA 13:16.4.1.1?  Please clarify. 

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, : The third floor is climate controlled via fan control units with heating and cooling coils.  Fire protection piping will not be subject to freezing. 

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8) This building is required to have a third party contractor conduct a two-way radio communication test in accordance with NFPA 1:11.10 and NFPA 1225 (2022 ED.) before the 105 framing inspection. St Johns County Fire Rescue’s radio control frequency is 853.8875.

-If it passes the inspection radio testing, you will need to submit a copy of the testing results as a revision so we can record the documentation and remove the hold.

- If the third party paperwork indicates the test is not satisfactory, then the contractor will have to submit for a revision. The revision will need to include: the unsatisfactory test paperwork, outline of corrective measures, and plans to illustrate the corrective measures to meet requirements provided by the design professional.

At the final, you will be required to provide satisfactory testing by the third party contractor following the installation of the in building radio enhancement system.

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "Will comply."

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9) Will you be providing gaseous fire protection systems in the data/server rooms?

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "No we will not be providing gaseous fire protection systems in the data/server rooms."

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10) Several doors indicate "by manuf" under hardware sets on the door schedule.  Provide this information now.   Sheet A900B

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Duplicate comment, see response to comment 6.

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11) Exit signage is required on floors 1 and 2 on both sides of the WON doors. 

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Exit signage has been added on both sides of the WON doors on both the LS plan and the Electrical Plans.

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12) Provide manufacturers specification sheets, plan details or both for the proposed WON doors. 

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "See attached manufacture specifications and details."

Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW Reviewers Response- Specifications and details provided 8 1/2 x11.   

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13) What is going to be stored in the following locations?

Storage General 1st floor SL-BB-1-014
Clean Supply 1st floor SL-BB-1-342
Storage General 1st floor SL-BB-1-331
Soiled Holding 1st floor SL-BB-1-214
Storage General 1st floor SL-BB-1-107
Clean Supply 2nd floor SL-BB-2-520
Clean Supply 2nd floor SL-BB-2-320

NFPA 38.3.2.1

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "Storage General 1st floor SL-BB-1-014, SL-BB-1-107, SL-BB-1-331 will contain office supplies.  Clean Supply 1st Floor SL-BB-1-342, SL-BB-2-520, SL-BB-2-320 will contain single use medical supplies such as gloves and needles.  Soiled Holding 1st floor SL-BB-1-214 will hold trash and soiled living."

Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW Reviewer Response-  The 3 clean supply rooms and the Soiled Holding room must be 1 hour rated with associated opening protectives per NFPA 101:38.3.2.1.  The annex language provides clarification.  A revision must be submitted to address this.  A hold has been place on the permit for this revision.

Tuesday, February 25, 2025 PJW- Clarification, ratings not required due to the building being provided with fire sprinklers per NFPA 101:8.7.1.1(2) as referenced by NFPA 101:38.3.2.1.    

 

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14) SL-BB-1-718, SL-BB-1-329, SL-BB-2-815, SL-BB-2-717, SL-BB-2-518

Are the above laboratories considered laboratories with chemicals as classified by NFPA 1 Section 26.1.1, 26.1.2, or 26.1.3?  Demonstrate which exception(s) in NFPA 1:26.1.4 are met.  If applicable demonstrate compliance with NFPA 1 Chapter 26 and NFPA 45.

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "No. This is an incidental use (exception 5), only minor urine diagnostic tests will be done in these spaces."

Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW Reviewer Response- Per RTC, not applicable per exemption 5 of NFPA 1:26.1.4. 

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15) Door 1-020 does not indicate a rating or hardware group.  Provide this information. 

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "See revised door schedule on A900B."

Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW Reviewer Response-  Revised door schedule still does not indicate a hardware group for door 1-020.  A revision will be required to address this.  A hold has been placed on the permit for this revision.     

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16) Corridor Patient SL-BB-1-347

It appears that the shaded fixture in this area is missing the BEH1A tie in based on other similar areas. 

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Fixture has been updated. 

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17) Classroom SL-BB-1-106 requires emergency lighting per NFPA 101:38.2.9.1, 7.9. 

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW- Per RTC, "The classroom is provided with lights on optional standby branch of power.  There is no requirement to provide emergency lighting based on the code reference mentioned in this comment."

Thursday, January 9, 2025 PJW Reviewer Response- NFPA 101:7.9.1.2 provided below indicates that emergency lighting is required for designated aisles.  Aisle is not defined in NFPA 101.  Per NFPA 101:3.1 when terms are not defined, they shall be defined using the definition within the Florida Building Code (FBC).  Per the FBC, an aisle is defined as "an unenclosed exit access component that defines and provides a path of egress travel.  It is the opinion of this office that this definition is applicable to a classroom whether set up with tables and chairs or rows of chairs.  Provide emergency lighting per the original comment. Definitions included below. A revision will be required to address this.     

NFPA 101:7.9.1.2 

 

For the purposes of 7.9.1.1, exit access shall include only designated stairs, aisles, corridors, ramps, escalators, and passageways leading to an exit. For the purposes of 7.9.1.1, exit discharge shall include only designated stairs, ramps, aisles, walkways, and escalators leading to a public way.

 

 

NFPA 101:3.1 General.

 

The definitions contained in this chapter shall apply to the terms used in this Code. Where terms are not included, common usage of the terms shall apply. The following terms, for the purposes of this Code, shall have the meanings given in this chapter, if not otherwise modified by another chapter. Words used in the present tense shall include the future; words used in the masculine gender shall include the feminine and neuter; the singular number shall include the plural, and the plural number shall include the singular. Where terms are not defined in this chapter or within another chapter, they shall be defined using the definition within the Florida Building Code.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18)INFORMATIONAL ONLY NO RESPONSE NECESSARY:
The system(s) outlined in this set of plans is conceptual.

A HOLD has been placed at insulation inspection (109) until either: a) a permit has been pulled or b) a letter submitted from respective system contractor indicating no work to be done to the existing system:

- Fire Alarm System (all sprinkler backflow electronically supervised [Fire Marshal Directive 22-001] (automatic smoke detection per 101:18.3.6.1 waiting area, smoke detection in traction elevators per NFPA 13:9.3.6.3 referenced on sprinkler plan.)
- Fire Sprinkler System (Ceiling Clouds)
- Fire underground
- Helipad
- Above/Underground Storage Tanks (LP Tank Yard)
- In-Building Radio Enhancement System (BDA) TEST / PERMIT

- Door Hardware Revision

- Fire/Smoke Damper Inspection

- Revision for comments13, 15, 17  21 and 22.

 

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19) Informational Comment

Sprinkler Criteria provided full size sealed by Bejamin D. Roseborough PE

 

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20) Informational Comment

Please staple your resubmittal.  It is very difficult to review plans of this size that are unbound. 

 

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21) New Comment- Copied from the Core Shell Plans. 

In conversation with the Architect Sara, stair 2 is compliant with NFPA 101:38.3.1.1(1) and 8.6.9.1.  The provided horizontal exit is utilized as the means of egress, not stair 2.  The space does not meet the requirements for communicating space, nor does it need to based on these references which permit the unenclosed vertical opening. 

Note: The electrical lighting plan sheet E2023B1 (interior buildout plans) still shows an exit sign leading to Stair 2.  A revision will be required to remove this.  A hold 109 will be placed on the buildout permit for this revision. 

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22) New Comment

In addition to comment 21 above, on sheet E2021B1 door 2-010, the exit sign appears to be on the wrong side of the door.  Egress travels from plan South to plan North for that door.  Include this in the electrical revision referenced in comment 21 for the Stair 2 exit sign.  Hold placed on the permit for these revisions. 

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