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Plan reviewed for 10340sf construction type IIB fire sprinklered (and alarmed) building to be used as a motor vehicle repair garage. It appears that it was submitted as a storage occupancy only. Reviewed as mixed storage (unsure of classification) and special purpose industrial using FFPC 6th edition effective Dec. 31, 2017.
Reviewer: Sandra Boike 904 209 1741 
Victoria Vitori 904 209 1748
To schedule fire inspections please call 827-6842 (automated system). Questions about inspections please call 209-1740x1.
Review by the AHJ shall not relieve the applicant of the responsibility for compliance with the Code.

 

RESUBMITTING:
Please make necessary changes and resubmit the complete permit application package.

To help speed the review process you should include a written comment response summary to clarify or illustrate corrections on plans (bubbling, highlighting or notations are best).  Please use the Florida Fire Prevention Code 6th Ed for all code reference in a response to comments. The fire plans examiner does not use the Florida Building Code. You are required to remove old pages and reinsert the new pages.

The numbered items require a response or plans to be updated to complete the review. Items labled "informational only" are for the contractor.

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1) Code summary appears to address the 5th edition of the Florida Fire Prevention Code. As of Jan. 1, 2018 the state adopted FFPC 6th edition. Please update. FAC 69a-60.005

Tuesday, July 24, 2018 CVR page updated.

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2) The illustrated occupancy classification for the building is "S-1". Please update Code Summary to include:

- Storage classification (low, ordinary or high). 101:42.1.5

  NTOE: Unable to check compliance with 101:42.2.4., 101:42.2.5, 101:42.2.6 since no classification indicated. This will be checked once classification indicated on plan.

- All occupancy classifications along with subclassification (special purpose industrial 1:30.2.2) and commodity classification (class and group 1:34.2) according to fire code. 1:30.2.2

Tuesday, July 24, 2018 Response to comment sheet indicates "The storage classification is ordinary, and is added to revised sheet CVR." Also on response to comment sheet it indicates that special use industrial applies on first page.

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3) The listed mezzanine square footage is 820sf. The listed "parts" room square footage is 1520sf. The mezzanine appears to exceed the "one-third the open area of the room in which the mezzanine" is located allowance. 101:8.6.10.2 Please address.

Tuesday, July 24, 2018 The response to comments sheet indicates that the mezzanine was shrunk to 528sf while the area the mezzanine opens to is 1760sf (parts 1520sf, receiving 136sf, and night drop 104sf).

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4) How is there only 1 means of egress for the "mezzanine"? 101:40.2.4.1.1

NOTE: Common path of travel is not met for the mezzanine either at this time. 101:40.2.5.1

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 It was clarified above this is an ordinary hazard. Ordinary hazard does allow for only 1 means of egress from mezzanine and does allow for travel distance to be 100' in a building with an approved supervised automatic sprinkler system. I am unable to locate on sprinkler design criteria page (fp3) or on fire alarm design criteria pages that the sprinkler backflow will be automatically supervised. Please point out where this is indicated on both the sprinkler and fire alarm design criteria pages.

Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Response to comments indicates "See Revision #10 Sheet E3 - Two tamper switches for the sprinkler backflow and note that it will be automatically supervised by the FACP. Sheet FP0 - Fire Protection General Notes #21. Double check backflow preventer is existing. See civil site utility plan for location." While E3 only indicates to supervise pump tampers, page FP0 does indicate supervision of existing backflow.

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5) Will storage be considered high piled storage? If so please illustrate compliance with 1:20.15.8.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "No. Tires are stored on racks as indicated on sheet A5. See attached cutsheet of racking system to be utilized."

Unable to locate cutsheet of racking system to be utilized. Unable to locate how tall racks of tire storage will be. 1:34.8.2.1. I called contact Dan which indicated that he thinks they are about 7' high but asked me to call Project Manager Brian (816 841 4179). Brian thinks they are 8' high at most.

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6) Page DE1 shows a tire dumpster. Will tires be stored inside? If so be prepared to point out compliance with 1:34.8.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "Yes. Tires will be placed inside the tire dumpster for temporary storage. Tires will be stored inside the building. The tire rack layout shown is modified to comply with 34.8.3.1.3, Where tires are stored on-tread, the dimension of the pile in the direction of the wheel hole shall be not more than 50 feet."

Unable to locate how tall racks of tire storage will be. 1:34.8.2.1 Unable to locate how tall racks of tire storage will be. 1:34.8.2.1. I called contact Dan which indicated that he thinks they are about 7' high but asked me to call Project Manager Brian (816 841 4179). Brian thinks they are 8' high at most.

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INFORMATIONAL ONLY NO RESPONSE NECESSARY: The system(s) outlined in this set of plans is conceptual.

A HOLD has been placed at framing (105) until a permit application has been submitted.
- fire alarm system (page A.0 and E3, backflow supervision see comment 4)
- fire sprinkler system (FP pages, sprinkler shop drawings will need EOR note. See comment 10.)
- fire underground (including hydrant)
- tank permit for 1000 gal AST tank shown on page DE1 near dumpster
- tank permit for propane tank shown on page C3.0 NE of building in parking lot
- fire pump

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments sheet indicates "Applications for the tanks are included with this resubmission. Permits for the fire alarm, fire sprinkler, fire main, and fire pump will be submitted by the appropriate contractors."

NOTE tank permit applications need to be resubmitted once building plans are approved.

Thursday, January 17, 2019 Fire pump removed from scope of project by sprinkler EOR.

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A fire department access box is required due to fire protection in the building. The brand approved by our department is fail safe. It will need to be mounted at building entrance. Use the link below to order the box off of their website.  It is imperative to fill in all the sections with the correct information to ensure your access box is keyed properly.  The required box for this jurisdiction is the "LBI FAIL- SAFE- LOCK BOX WITH TAMPER SWITCH".  This is usually the first box listed and is approx. $225.OO. Remember when the form references the fire “department/ issuing agency” and “authorized signature” you must indicate " St. Johns County Fire Rescue". https://www.nutechlink.com/failsafeordering/index.html

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "Sheet A6 has been updated to specifcy the correct box."

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7) Will the repair garage service vehicles that use non-odorized gases (e.g. hydrogen, LNG, CNG)? If so please point out compliance with 1:30.2.8.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "Vehicles using non-odorized gases will not be serviced at this repair garage. This facility will service diesel fueled trucks for tire and oil changes."

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8) Page PP2 shows a 1000g tank. What is this for? Is this going near tire dumpster?

NOTE: Page PP7 shows oil water separator as 600g.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "The 1000g tank is utilized for used oil storage. See sheet P1 for pipe routing from pit drainage pan." Review of the 1000g oil storage tank will be reviewed when tank permit submitted.

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9) Multiple fire alarm devices shown on page E3.An ENGINEERED signed and sealed Design Criteria for the fire alarm system over $5000.00 is required to be submitted with the general construction documents. FAC 61G15-32.002(5) We are unable to approve the plan until this information is provided. (The Design Criteria is not a full set of shop drawings.) THIS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE 61G15-32.008,(A-O) Design of Fire Alarms and Detection Systems.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "Added fire alarm riser detail, wiring schedule, and additional notes per FAC 61g15-32.008. See sheet E3."

Unable to locate where the following is provided or illustrated on page E3. Please clarify the following:

a)symbols legend, occupancy classification

b)related systems tied in : fire sprinkler backflow tamper

f) is fire alarm to be conventional or addressable

j) or k) are either of these a concern?

o) maintenance procedures, manuals, system documentation, and instruction of Owner's operating personnel

Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Response to comments indicates "9a. Symbols legend is located on sheet E0. Occupancy classification S-1 with 33 occupants as indicated on sheet CVR.

9b. We will indicate two tamper switches for the sprinkler backflow and note that it will be automatically supervised by the FACP. See revision #10 on sheet E3

9f. System is addressable as indicated in the Fire Alarm System Notes, note #1, on sheet E0.

9j. No concern.

9f. No concern.

9o. We will indicated these items in the Fire Alarm System Notes on sheet E0. See revision #10 on sheet E0"

Regarding 9a, I am only able to find the responses on the "response to comments sheet". All design criteria is to be provided on signed and sealed pages. Also, the response to comment sheet indicates this occupancy as being only "S-1". Fire Code does not have "S-1". Be aware this is not just a storage occupancy according to Fire Code. At minimum this needs to follow the rules for storage AND special purpose industrial according to Fire Code.

9b. Looking at page E3 note 4 only addresses tampers on fire pump (which has been removed according to new sprinkler design criteria). There is no mention of tampers for the backflow.

 

10) FP pages show sprinkler system information but does not outline all design criteria. An ENGINEERED sealed Design Criteria for a fire sprinkler system exceeding 49 heads is required to be submitted with the general construction documents. We are unable to approve the plan until this information is provided. (FAC 61G15-32.002(5)) (The signed and sealed design criteria is the general guidelines with design and scope of the sprinkler system. It is not a full set of shop drawing.) THIS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE 61G15-32.004, (A-M) as of June 19th, 2015, Design of Water Based Fire Protection Systems.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "Sheet FP3 has been updated to include all design criteria according to Florida Administrative Code Chapter 61G15-32. The owner's certificate is included in this resubmission. The shop drawings will be submitted by the sprinkler contractor."

Upon review of the sprinkler design criteria the following needs to be clarified or addressed in accord with the requirements of FAC61g15-32:

- Page FP3 box 61g15-32.003(4) indicates that the fire protection contractor will need to get their engineer to sign and seal the shop drawings. Per FAC 61G15-32.002(5)(6) after the Fire protection system engineering documents (Criteria) is submitted with the building plans, the shop drawings, when submitted, require no additional engineering input or seal.

Please either: 1) Remove this comment or 2)clarify the comment preparing the fire sprinkler contractor to provide: a) Have ___new engineer____ submit a registered letter to ___EOR____ notifying to reuse the already sealed contract documents therefore assuming all legal responsibility for the system in accordance with FAC 61G15-27.001. or 3) Have the owner or project engineer submit a letter to our office completely removing ___EOR____ as engineer of record for the project. or 4) Have the engineer of record provide a note on the shop plans they approve for design requirements and performance only.

- c) On page FP3 box 61g15-32.004(2)(c) directs me to box 61g15-32.003(3) which tells me everything will be light hazard unless otherwise noted. Below light hazard, ordinary hazard group 2 is listed but I am not sure where this will be? Please list hazard location for each room or area.

- e) unable to locate water supply characteristics such as main size and location, dead end or circulating, distance to nearest circulating main, minimum duration and reliability for the most hydraulically demanding design area. If I am over looking please point out.

- f) flow test provided is over a year old (4 6 17). Base off flow test less than 1 year old.

- g) unable to locate if backflow is electrically monitored.  Looks like the response from architect under item #4 above will require the backflow to also be monitored. Please address.

- h) Regarding MIC, the comment currently reads our Office monitors the water supply. We do not monitor the water supply therefore can not comment MIC. I have seen severe pipe corrosion in more than one location. Those building owners have choose to repair system only and not have water tested. Other sprinkler engineers have addressed MIC in their submittals. It is the responsibility of the Engineer to evaluate the water supply and make a determination of the corrective action if needed. Please clarify if the system will need corrective measures then identify what correction will be taken.

- m) owners certificate provided on 8x11 but not signed/sealed by EOR. Either show owners certificate on signed/sealed FP pages or have EOR sign/seal 8x11.

Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Response to comments indicates "On sheet FP3, 61g15-32.003(4) - The engineer of record shall provide a note on the shop plans that they approve for design requirements and performance.

c) The hazard classification types are listed on sheet FP3, 61g15-32.003(3) and the areas listed are on sheet FP0, Fire Protection General Notes #6.

e) See sheet FP1 for fire main size entering the building and the longest/ most demanding inside the building. See sheet FP0 for Preliminary Sprinkler Calculations. Distance from fire riser to most remote/demanding is given there. See civil site utility plans for fire main outside of the building.

f) See sheet FP0 Preliminary Sprinkler Calculations for updated flow test dated 8-30-2018.

g) Backflow preventer is existing. See sheet FP0, Fire Protection General Notes #20 and #21.

h) Owner to test the water for MIC.

m) See sheet FP4 for Owner's Certificate.

Upon re review the following remain unaddressed:

c) hazard class for parts , night drop and receiving were classified as OHG1. NFPA 13:5.3.2 classifies these as OHG2.

f) what is the hydrant butt coefficient and location of test in relation to the hydraulic point of service?

h) The state of Florida requires the Engineer to identify if MIC is an issue or not. If it is, it is the EOR's responsibility to call out the corrective measures.

 

11) Page A8 appears to show stair and mezzanine guards that do not meet 101:7.2.2.4.6.3. Please address.

Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Response to comments indicates "Per 101:7.2.2.4.6.3(2) In detention and correctional occupancies, in industrial occupancies, and in storage occupancies, the clear distance between intermediate rails, measured at right angles to the rails shall not exceed 21 inches. The spacing of the intermediate rails is adjusted to 21 indices maximum. Refer to revised sheet A8."

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